Ron Burgundy Plays Columbo Clips for FBI Agent Joe Navarro

Our host Ron Burgundy hurt his neck recently, so he warns his co-host and producer, Carolina Barlowe, that he is on several muscle relaxants from a bottle his mother “passed down to me years ago, as a little boy,” and also that he can “only look forward, literally and spiritually.” For this episode of The Ron Burgundy Podcast, he’s looking forward to interviewing Frida the rescue dog – except Carolina didn’t get Frida: “I booked a human, who can speak.” So Ron interviews retired FBI agent and body language expert Joe Navarro instead, learning about lazy bomb-sniffing dogs and Quantico pranks, and analyzing a bunch of clips from Columbo and Chicago PD, which Ron likes because of their unerring accuracy.

After a couple of clips, Ron tells Joe to give us his most gravelly voice, “as if you were on Chicago PD,” and when he does, Ron asks, “Joe, are you married? ‘Cause you might want to try that voice out in the bedroom tonight. That one’s for free.” They watch a little Quantico next, which is a show based at the FBI training academy, and Joe has to tell Ron that it’s not very accurate. “When we were at Quantico they didn’t trust us to do anything, let alone lead an investigation,” he laughs. It’s a difficult training program, he says, and one of the top reasons agents don’t graduate is failing the trigger pull test, which tests your ability to consistently squeeze the trigger of a gun “as if you were in a fire fight.” It’s harder than you think, he says. 

There were some pranks, though, and Ron laughs uproariously as Joe tells him about a class counselor being tricked into thinking someone had jumped off a six-story building and then developed a nervous tic in his face for three years. “Pranked you!” Carolina teases, and Joe adds, “Now we call that PTSD.” They decide to watch another clip, but this time, it’s from Sex and the City, which Carolina introduced to Ron when he tried on some jeans that were too tight and got very upset. “I’m on muscle relaxant, by the way,” Ron says, apropos of nothing. They talk a little about the scene, with Joe discussing what it means when someone bites their lip or furrows their brow, when Ron decides to play a Jim Croce song. “I’m going to be honest, the muscle relaxant has fully kicked in,” he admits, before passing out for three hours. Hear more from Joe Navarro, like what happens when FBI dogs retire, if Columbo was a good interrogator, how his body language analysis affects his marriage, and get Ron’s thoughts on the millennial work ethic, on this episode of The Ron Burgundy Podcast.

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